China has always been anti-Western and anti-American. Why would you complain that a Netflix production is anti-China? The Cultural Revolution really happened. How is it anti-China?
Oh, I know you come from some cultural colonial land of free America; enjoy your criticism life, period.
You dont understand, maybe because your not Chinese, and you continue absorbing the West ideology so you think that is normal. In the West film, series Asian guys always get implicit discrimination
like being desexualized. You can always see the story of a white man saving an Asian girl and falling in love but hardly find an inverse one. The savers mostly are white people or people who have a common ideology with Western values. Otherwise, like Soviet and China, they can only play as the evil. You can never find a Western movie tells you how great sacrifices Soviet made to defeat the Nazis. What you can only see is something like the heroes from the US and its allies save the world while communist countries are doing anti-human experiments. Your not the targeted group you do feel no offensive
我觉得我们没有在讨论一个东西，我看到你的这句"当事情的真相没有被错误描述时，我不认为这是对中国的抹黑"，我不觉得角色不同人种 是 抹黑？如果你说的是这个，那我反而困惑，不同人种扮演这个可以被接受。我是看到这个帖子发布人一直在发 文革 的事情，我觉得你提的也是 文化大革命 才回复你的。
至于你说应该由不同人种扮演，小说里面其他面壁者也不是中国人， 我对由什么人种扮演没有意见。网络其他人反对由不同人扮演可能有几个原因 ：
1.这个版本里只有反派是中国人了，这与小说本来就有区别，章北海原著是政委，才拥有坚定思想（虽然是逃跑主义伪装）
2. 这个版本，很多人认为充满了政治正确，比如里面亚洲女生爱上白人男生
首先你所谓的中国一直反西方、反美本身就是个假命题，在尼克松访华后直到2010年前整体上就没啥实际的对抗。历史上绝大多数中国人自然是站在本国本民族的立场的，世界上绝大多数民族国家也是如此,在现在对抗加剧的背景下，出现一个藏有政治私货的玩意儿是并不意外的。但是不意外并不等于我们不能骂。
所以说中国的所谓自由派，尤其是新自人都或多或少都是一个炉子出来的，你们都或多或少的陷入了亲西方/西方路线和逆向民族主义路径依赖。而你更是在网上遇到和你不一样的主流意见就觉得自己是文革受害者，这下更贴合大多数正常人对这类人内心脆弱网上连嘴炮都打不过的刻板印象了。再一看你在其他回复里洗白以色列屠杀加沙百姓这下更贴合了，你就完完全全是个useful idiot啊。
Woa you’d be the biggest Trump supporter if you lived in the US.
Because China has been mindlessly anti-Western and anti-American, do other parts of the world have to be mindlessly anti-Chinese? The world is not working on the logic of vengeance.
People think having all Chinese characters as bad guys is a bad idea, and this has nothing to do with how the Chinese people and government view others. We are not trying to revenge China in a fucking netflix show.
I’m Chinese and male. While I get what your saying I don’t need the narrative to have a Chinese male to feel included in the narrative. I still don’t like a lot of western metdis but I think this series wasn’t bad
Totally wrong, Trump’s values are very close to the values of the Chinese people, and most Chinese people support Trump, not Biden, because they feel that many of Trump’s conservative policies are close to Chinese values. People like me don’t like Trump.
Good observation. The OP has no idea on what he was talking about. People can literally say anything, other than overthrowing Chinese government, on the Internet.
Many people have the misconception that China is a leftist country. In fact, China is neither left nor right, China is a despotic dictatorship.
Who the fuck are you to tell us what Chinese people value and think?
Chinese people who vote Trump are 1.) falun gong cultists, 2.) Chinese who fled due to sketchy tax evasion practices and had most of their money confiscated, 3.) Christians, or 4.) ppl who only care abt tax policies.
Ok but it’s very Trumpian to cry “omg cultural revolution” upon not getting your way on social media
As a poli-sci major, I find it strange that westerners assume you have to change the guy in office to get a change in policy. All levels of gov in China change policy all the time responding to the people’s needs, without changing who’s in office. It’s not ideal, but it beats a system where no matter who you vote for, you get corporate interests over your own.
I was just there in Feb and I disagree. People don’t have full political representation unfortunately but they do have say over policy.
It does sound very contradictory.
But you can’t look at China from the viewpoint of the left or the right.
Many of Trump’s conservative views are very much in line with the views of most Chinese people.
China is more of a modern, secular autocracy, and China cannot be viewed in terms of a modern state. I can recommend a book called (The Perfect Dictatorship: China in the 21st Century), which is very relevant to the current situation in China.
Ant society, this is my summary of the social situation in China. If you look at what kind of social model ants are, what kind of Chinese society is like. Of course, people will definitely think more than ants, and I think Chinese society is moving toward an ant society or a bee society.
Your comment should confirm my point of view, as long as the point of view is different. You’ll brand me as “大殖子,” which means traitor.
You need to spend a lot of time in China and be proficient in Chinese to really understand what kind of society China is. Especially the Internet! China is now an Internet society, and all information is spread through the Internet, because almost everyone under the age of 50 in China now uses the Internet, and only the public opinion and policies on the Internet can reflect the real China. Foreigners who do not know China for the first time are easily misled by the appearance of China.