And Isreal isnt even the first place they have had this problem with. Just look at what happened with Lebanon, Egypt, Jordan. Theres a reason no one wants to help palestinians a second time.
Isreal isnt perfect, but they atleast dont constantly attack/assassinate anyone who helps them
What about the 50% that don’t support the death penalty against people who leave Islam?
Well said. Palestine and Israel both commit war crimes, but Israel’s war crimes are incidental. For Palestinians, the entire point is to commit war crimes against Israelis.
“There are war crimes and there is the crime of war. You cannot have a war without war crimes and war is a crime, but let’s not be too quick to surrender to sophistry: Fascism is when you get both the crime of conspiracy to wage aggressive war AND the aggressive war entailing - both by necessity and design - crimes against humanity. In other words: Nothing about it is coincidence. The crimes are not a byproduct of the war; it is the nature of the war itself.”
Well said. The shah warned everyone about the Arab countries human rights record and said it was hypocritical to say his government tortured people without proof yet never bat an eye to someone in Saudi Arabia getting their hand cut off for stealing an apple
Also let’s not forget about about how Saudi Arabia killed 150k civilians with air strikes. I guess it’s okay as long it is not the Jews that are doing it. No national news about it at all either
it’s not about religion. it’s about natives and fighting for your right to exist
All that you just said might be true or untrue, but that is not the point.
All that you just said has nothing to do with Israel legitimacy of invading and occupying Palestine.
You’re letting your judgment of what is “good” vs “evil” and letting it control a decision that has nothing to do with the Israel - Palestine issue.
It’s not a war between who has got better values. It is a war between an occupier and occupied. One nation is defending itself from anther nation who is invading.
Example…just to make it clear:
If the USA went to Burundi and decided to invade it and call it USA land… just because you can say that USA has got better moral values then the violent dictatorship of Burundi, that doesn’t give any right for USA to invade it and call it USA land.
The issue is completely different. That’s what many people get wrong. It’s not about Palestine values vs Israel values
The problem is not just limited to Hamas and Islamist groups. Actually, the non-Islamist Palestinian groups like PFLP and Fatah were also carrying out terrorist attacks against Israel. The problem is not limited to just the Islamists. The problem is with Palestinians in general. The Palestinians, Arabs and Persians are genetically imbibed with hatred in their blood independent of religion and the only way out of this conflict is for Israel to kill all Palestinians and ethnic Persians. Israel should kill all Palestinians and also nuke at least 20 Iranian cities and wipe Iran off the map.
Palestinians literally hosted Jews. they don’t care about ethnicity. they care about ideologies, Zionism is racism
it’s not “mullahs” it’s Palestinians who can’t find a better leader. literally both socialists and liberals are fighting with Hamas, but it’s for a common cause
do you realize that the regime didn’t exist until 79. this regime is a mashup of many people
What about the millions of innocent palestinians who suffered for centuries after ottoman, british, then israeli colonialism. Hamas and isis are ruining their reputation the same way the IR ruined the iranians’ reputation.
The IR doesn’t give a fuck about palestine and only cares about funding some ragtag terrorist organizations in unstable war torn countries. Its not the fault of palestine that the IR is spending iran’s resources and money on some terrorist organizations that don’t represent the real palestine
Most arab countries never decided out of will to make peace with israel. Countries like jordan, egypt, sudan, morocco, and the UAE were forced and/or bribed into doing so
the reason why they supported Saddam is because they are so isolated they don’t really have a choice. besides that, why would my ideologies matter much here? plus, Palestinians don’t universally like Hamas. they are supported by Palestinians because they are their sharpest tool
It quite is, especially if here someone believes in autodeterminacy, especially if they do it in Kurdish one but not Palestinian one
maybe cos they are oppressed and segregated in an apartheid regime condemned by Holocaust survivors?
the kingdom of Israel is a biblical lie. zionism even goes against Jewish principles. and why cant Palestinians even co exist? you definitely sound racist
maybe cause Israel is a western colonialist project
you do realize that Israel is systematically oppressing people based on ETHNICITY too, right? Israel is just an Ashkenazi settlement, darker Jews are constantly discriminated, blacks are often asked to leave. I hope youll realize that Israel has no right to exist because it’s founded on a westerned, colonist logic
and why mods allow someone have communist flair? its like having nazi flare
that’s obtuse at best, why?