We fire up our VPN and it tells us we’re going through a node halfway around the world and that the VPN provider does not keep logs; they’re constantly being erased. We’re reading this on our screens and believe it, while scoffing at news footage. Think about that.
TOR tells us that we’re being routed through a bunch of servers so that our identity is hidden.
TOR is funded in part by the US government under the guise of shining the light of freedom in dark corners of the world. I’m sure the NSA and CIA are monitoring that network. Think about that.
I’m not a tech guy and not a conspiracy nut, but I’ve come to distrust much of the world around me. I trust in God, my family and close friends. Beyond that, I’m a skeptic.
I’ve been on TOR. I’ve tried to navigate the dark web out of curiosity. It scares me, to be honest. It scares me that even though I have a VPN and TOR, if I happen on one wrong onion, the FBI is gonna bust down my door.
So think about it. Don’t you think that TOR and a Swiss VPN provider (are they really, though) may give us just a false sense of security?
r/TorwithVPN
stop using a VPN with Tor.
If you don’t trust tor… Then why would you trust a VPN. You can add more tor nodes to your connection. Which is essentially what the VPN is doing
That’s a quite polemic topic about TOR and VPN working together , so navigating through the dark web requires a lot of prudence , so you may find lot of useful stuff and , bad things also.
So trusting a reliable VPN provider may sound as an act of faith , a blind trust act , ( even though I am not a religious person) . So for choosing a VPN you should make a correct research about different providers and so in my opinion I’ve found Proton VPN is an intelligent choice , because of people who chooses that provider , and the people behind them (CERN ) .
Even though it has it’s limitations , so avoid visit suspicious onion sites, and giving personal information about you , I’ve found it’s the real hazard for your privacy .(Talking more than you have).
Navigating in dark web it’s for judicious people , and it should be done with care.
I admit, I’m a bit ignorant when it comes to technical things. I stopped keeping up with computers when Windows 95 came out. I really have no need for what may be out there, I’m sure most of it is legit. I use Proton Mail and played around with their free VPN and used TOR a few times just to see what it’s about. My main point is just an academic exercise, a “what if” scenario. We think "oh, I’ve got my VPN or “I use TOR” and take it on blind faith. If I were looking to do some shady s**t, I’d be be a bit wary because when you think about it, being invisible and untouchable on-line sounds too good to be true. Maybe we are, maybe not.
So your whole point relies on people being as clueless as you as to how and why Tor is THE option for online anonymity?
There’s no blind faith. Everyone here knows how it works. Even the ones who don’t are much closer than someone who thinks it’s dark web and shady shit.
The point of anonymity means you blend in and nobody notices who you are. That’s true - onion sites are all end to end encrypted. There is no reason to think like how you are unless you actively choose to ignore a quick readup on HOW it works. There’s still bad players in the game, but that skepticism of yours should lie in the obvious like “if i’m supposed to be anonymous, why am I giving my personal details here?”
This is just a technical misunderstanding than a fault of Tor dude.