Advice for visiting China

I plan to visit China for the first time, for about two weeks this year.

Please give me some advice on where I should go and what I should see and do, particularly from a socialist perspective and in that context, if you can.

Also general advice (for someone who incidentally doesn’t know any language other than English) on visiting the country would be much appreciated.

For example, I’ve heard there’s a particular app they use to pay for everything over there, and cash is rare (which is fine by me, because I hate cash (and money in general, as a communist, obviously)).

I don’t want it to just be a holiday. I want to come away from it with a better, first-hand understanding of socialism with Chinese characteristics.

Thanks in advance, comrades.

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I suggest you go to Yan’an. It was the HQ of the CPC for the whole duration from after the Long March until the final phase of the Chinese Civil War. Yan’an is a 5000-year-old city, making it an important historical place for China. You can visit it in one day essentially, it is not big and there are combined tours for the famous spots of red history. The city is about 1-2 hours away from Xi’an, the capital of Shaanxi province and an ancient capital of 13 dynasties. You can stay there for a couple of days and visit the Terracotta army, the Big Wild Goose pagoda, the Shaanxi provincial museum, the city wall and of course try local Shaanxi food. They have great noodles and Chinese burgers called 肉夹馍 (rou jia mo).

Visiting China is usually enough to shatter the worldview of liberals, and for us communists it is a confirmation of our ideas and an inspiration, you can feel it especially if you choose to take the high-speed train to places like:

Beijing: Tian’anmen Square and the Forbidden City, Chairman Mao’s mausoleum, the Revolutionary Military museum, the Great Wall (badaling), Tiantan temple and Yiheyuan park.

Shanghai: overall a super-modern, comfortable and clean city as well as being the birthplace of the CPC.

Nanjing: 2 hours on the high-speed train from Shanghai, there is a big park with Dr. Sun Yat-sen’s memorial and Ming dynasty graves, it was the capital of the ROC during WW2. The city centre is very beautiful and in the evening you can visit the Confucius temple and the city wall.

As for the apps, it is good if you install them in advance and connect them to your payment methods.

Find a VPN provider before you arrive in China. Avoid buying a SIM card in the airport, it is several times cheaper in the city.

A translator app is quite useful since most people don’t speak English. But don’t worry, locals are extremely welcoming and they will sometimes go out of their way to practice English with you or add you on Wechat, or they will try to communicate with gestures or a translator aswell if the situation requires it.

As for money, I promise you will not spend more than 100$ in cash if you’ll need it at all. 99% of the everyday payments are done with Wechat Pay, so download Wechat (微信).
Another thing about Wechat, it is a so-called super app. This means that it is a messenger, mobile pay service and a platform for all kinds of small apps, e.g., for ordering tea or delivery, making a reservation in a hotel etc.

One thing I love about China is that there are rentable bicycles on every corner and all you need to do is scan it to ride it. The same goes for power bank piles.

For public transport download Alipay (支付宝) and find the bus/subway ticket for the specific city that you are in, you scan the barcode when you enter and leave the buses.

The map app is called Amap (or 高德地图).

Calling a taxi is very common and cheap, you can download DiDi (滴滴出行).

If you want to take the high-speed train, download Railway 12306 (中国铁路).

When looking for a hotel, make sure they can register foreigners, since some only take Chinese citizens.

Go to the poorer provinces and see firsthand how poverty alleviation policies are done and you can ask locals or whatever to explain it to you

If you want to go to China for socialist history, I recommend visiting Beijing since it has a large concentration of museums and historical sites. Also avoid Shanghai at all costs. Shanghai is a great city for sightseeing but it thrives on petty bourgeois culture as the finance and economic center of China. This means that you will go there and leave disappointed and completely broke.

Hey there, comrade! I suggest you start in Beijing (direct flight). It’s a must-visit if you want to learn more about China’s history. Then, visit Nanjing, Yan’an (now in Shaanxi), Changsha, Guangzhou, Harbin, Shanghai, and any other you like. Here are some popular places you should check out (some of them require reservations in advance):

Beijing! Tiananmen Square is a must-go.

  1. Flag Raising Ceremony – It happens every morning at sunrise and in the evening at sunset. I suggest arriving at least 30–60 minutes early for a good view. It gets very crowded, especially on holidays like October 1st.

  2. Mao’s Mausoleum – Mao’s body is preserved here, and many people visit daily. No cameras are allowed, and security is pretty tight.

  3. Monument to the People’s Heroes (人民英雄纪念碑) – A massive obelisk in the center of Tiananmen Square, dedicated to those who died in revolutionary struggles.

  4. Great Hall of the People – The political center of China and the meeting place for the National People’s Congress.

  5. National Museum of China – Full of China’s history, as the name suggests. I love this place.

Beyond the square, you can visit the Forbidden City (which is close by) and the Great Wall of China. And of course, don’t miss out on the amazing food while you’re there.

Changsha: If you love spicy food and hotpot, this is a must-visit. I’m sure you’ll gain some weight here. Shaoshan, Mao’s birthplace and childhood home, has a memorial museum. Also, you have to visit Orange Isle (橘子洲头) and Mao’s Statue, a massive statue of young Mao. It’s always packed with people. Arrive early for best views and best pictures.

Yan’an, as mentioned in the comments above, is strongly recommended. Yan’an Revolutionary Memorial Hall is one of the earliest revolutionary memorial halls built after the formation of the PRC, and it’s filled with historical significance.

Nanjing has a dark history. The Nanjing Massacre Memorial Hall documents the 1937 massacre by the Japanese army. It’s a very heavy experience—I cried when I visited. There’s also the Presidential Palace, the former government seat of the Nationalists before they fled to Taiwan. Another important site is Sun Yat-sen’s Mausoleum, his final resting place.

Harbin! The Unit 731 Museum is a must-see if you’re interested in the darker sides of history. It’s a museum about Japan’s biological warfare unit during WWII and the horrific experiments conducted on Chinese civilians and POWs. You can see the old facilities and learn how the experiments were carried out. I’ve been there before, and it was a very heavy experience as well.

For Guangzhou, where I was born and live, you can visit the Sun Yat-sen Memorial Hall and the Guangzhou Uprising Martyrs’ Memorial Hall, which honors those who died in the 1927 Communist uprisings, one of the earliest attempts.

There are also plenty of historical sites in cities like Shanghai and Chengdu. You should also check out China’s famous mountains like Mount Tai, Mount Hua, Mount Heng, Mount Wutai, and Mount Putuo, among others. If you have time, I highly suggest visiting Xinjiang and Inner Mongolia. Also, enjoy the amazing food and shopping while you’re in China. Different regions have their own unique cuisines.

For apps, we use WeChat (for messaging and payments), Alipay (also for payments—most stores accept both WeChat and Alipay, so no worries), Amap (for navigation—Apple Maps also works fine), Didi (China’s Uber), and Ctrip (for booking trains, flights, and hotels). Don’t forget to download a VPN before arriving. I also recommend downloading a translator app in advance. If you speak English, Chinese people will be surprised and happy to talk to you.

That being said, Enjoy your trip!

With some comments visiting around Xi’an and Yan’an I recommend Huashan for some beautiful mountain views.

Xi’an or Harbin. Don’t forget to visit the museums.

buy a travel sim card with like 30gb of allowance, use letsvpn if you care about accessing reddit and whatnot. i use 30-50gb of data per month, and you don’t speak the language, so you’ll probably use a lot more than i do for live translation etc

Go to the museums in Beijing to learn about the country’s revolutionary history.In addition to the big cities, you can also consider visiting Guizhou, one of the poorest provinces in China, which is also known for its beautiful scenery.You can learn about local life while traveling.If you are a little more daring, you can randomly visit some of the minority mountain villages that are not scenic spots.

Honestly google your local Confuscius Institute and ask them. There are some apps you’ll want that you’ll need to be invited to (weChat) and they can give you tons of advice. I’m planning a trip in July and basically everywhere on my itinerary one of the staff have been to and will jump at the opportunity to give me advice.

I highly recommend taking an introductory language class at the CI or at the very least starting duolingo. China is not very English supportive, not in the way Europe is anyway, and while translator apps can work, you wont want to translate every sign you see while you’re looking for a pharmacy to buy cold medicine from if you catch something on the flight (or any other of the millions of reasons some basic language knowledge is prefered).

Lastly there’s lots of good advice on youtube. I recommend Katherine’s Journey East, Little Chinese Everywhere, and Blondie in China for travel advice and destination advice.

From a Chinese who has spent 4 Years in NYC.

Detailed route:

Tiananmen-Beijing: headquarter of china, great wall, palace. Normal must visit site for first time traveller.

Pingyao-Shanxi: historical town, beautiful authentic ancient architectures, also its the poorer, more normal part of china—(or if there is some particular city you want to see, you can always replace this with that city, normal Chinese city looks the same so if you visit one, you visit them all)

Hangzhou/Shenzhen: visiting one would be enough if your time is limited, two is not too much. The tech, innovation center in China(consider it to be LA and SF in china). Everything is new and changing, try the subway, hotel robots, shared bikes(download meituan app if you need shared bikes in yellow), try online car hailing(you can get it from Baidu maps, they are all EVs and absolutely cheap, visit some Chinese car brand stores(Li motor, they will blow your mind!).

Shanghai is China’s New York(Modern, financial, liberal, kinda boring)

Definitely try the high-speed railway from Beijing to Hangzhou(it’s taken by hundreds thousands of people daily).

Personally don’t think Yanan is important visiting sites as suggested by comments(it has something to do with China modern culture, but Maoism and communism is no longer important, just considering someone trying to understand contemporary western culture by visit Jerusalem or Vatican). Besides all you gonna see is annoying red propagandas that you will basically see in every city in china.

Also if you want to dig something go to south Xinjiang Province. If you find something about ughyers, please post on reddit, I am really curious lol.

Advanced tips:

Changsha’s Juzizhou island with the giant Mao statue

Gutian, where the spirit of the People’s Liberation Army was formed in 1929

Zunyi, the place where the Long March began in 1935

Don’t the e-bikes require a Chinese ID? A foreign friend was just here in October and we tried several…most didn’t work because of that and the one that did required a photo of him holding his passport.

For real. For this I suggest taking the slow train on the old line of the Chengdu-Kunming railway. That railway was a piece of living history built in the 1960s as a part of the Third Front Construction to transport Iron ore out of Panzhihua. The railway featured incredible engineering due to its location in the mountains and the amount of tunneling and change in elevation that was necessary. Recently a new railway bypassed the old line but the railway still run slow trains for the locals and tourists and serves a critical function to the local economy.

typical agent provocateur behaviour

#Tiananmen Square Protests

(Also known as the June Fourth Incident)

In Western media, the well-known story of the “Tiananmen Square Massacre” goes like this: the Chinese government declared martial law in 1989 and mobilized the military to suppress students who were protesting for democracy and freedom. According to western sources, on June 4th of that year, troops and tanks entered Tiananmen Square and fired on unarmed protesters, killing and injuring hundreds, if not thousands, of people. The more hyperbolic tellings of this story include claims of tanks running over students, machine guns being fired into the crowd, blood running in the streets like a river, etc.

Anti-Communists and Sinophobes commonly point to this incident as a classic example of authoritarianism and political repression under Communist regimes. The problem, of course, is that the actual events in Beijing on June 4th, 1989 unfolded quite differently than how they were depicted in the Western media at the time. Despite many more contemporary articles coming out that actually contradict some of the original claims and characterizations of the June Fourth Incident, the narrative of a “Tiananmen Square Massacre” persists.

Background

After Mao’s death in 1976, a power struggle ensued and the Gang of Four were purged, paving the way for Deng Xiaoping’s rise to power. Deng initiated economic reforms known as the “Four Modernizations,” which aimed to modernize and open up China’s economy to the world. These reforms led to significant economic growth and lifted millions of people out of poverty, but they also created significant inequality, corruption, and social unrest. This pivotal point in the PRC’s history is extremely controversial among Marxists today and a subject of much debate.

One of the key factors that contributed to the Tiananmen Square protests was the sense of social and economic inequality that many Chinese people felt as a result of Deng’s economic reforms. Many believed that the benefits of the country’s economic growth were not being distributed fairly, and that the government was not doing enough to address poverty, corruption, and other social issues.

Some saw the Four Modernizations as a betrayal of Maoist principles and a capitulation to Western capitalist interests. Others saw the reforms as essential for China’s economic development and modernization. Others still wanted even more liberalization and thought the reforms didn’t go far enough.

The protestors in Tiananmen were mostly students who did not represent the great mass of Chinese citizens, but instead represented a layer of the intelligentsia who wanted to be elevated and given more privileges such as more political power and higher wages.

Counterpoints

Jay Mathews, the first Beijing bureau chief for The Washington Post in 1979 and who returned in 1989 to help cover the Tiananmen demonstrations, wrote:

Over the last decade, many American reporters and editors have accepted a mythical version of that warm, bloody night. They repeated it often before and during Clinton’s trip. On the day the president arrived in Beijing, a Baltimore Sun headline (June 27, page 1A) referred to “Tiananmen, where Chinese students died.” A USA Today article (June 26, page 7A) called Tiananmen the place “where pro-democracy demonstrators were gunned down.” The Wall Street Journal (June 26, page A10) described “the Tiananmen Square massacre” where armed troops ordered to clear demonstrators from the square killed “hundreds or more.” The New York Post (June 25, page 22) said the square was “the site of the student slaughter.”

The problem is this: as far as can be determined from the available evidence, no one died that night in Tiananmen Square.

- Jay Matthews. (1998). The Myth of Tiananmen and the Price of a Passive Press. Columbia Journalism Review.

Reporters from the BBC, CBS News, and the New York Times who were in Beijing on June 4, 1989, all agree there was no massacre.

Secret cables from the United States embassy in Beijing have shown there was no bloodshed inside the square:

Cables, obtained by WikiLeaks and released exclusively by The Daily Telegraph, partly confirm the Chinese government’s account of the early hours of June 4, 1989, which has always insisted that soldiers did not massacre demonstrators inside Tiananmen Square

- Malcolm Moore. (2011). Wikileaks: no bloodshed inside Tiananmen Square, cables claim

Gregory Clark, a former Australian diplomat, and Chinese-speaking correspondent of the International Business Times, wrote:

The original story of Chinese troops on the night of 3 and 4 June, 1989 machine-gunning hundreds of innocent student protesters in Beijing’s iconic Tiananmen Square has since been thoroughly discredited by the many witnesses there at the time — among them a Spanish TVE television crew, a Reuters correspondent and protesters themselves, who say that nothing happened other than a military unit entering and asking several hundred of those remaining to leave the Square late that night.

Yet none of this has stopped the massacre from being revived constantly, and believed. All that has happened is that the location has been changed – from the Square itself to the streets leading to the Square.

- Gregory Clark. (2014). Tiananmen Square Massacre is a Myth, All We’re ‘Remembering’ are British Lies

Thomas Hon Wing Polin, writing for CounterPunch, wrote:

The most reliable estimate, from many sources, was that the tragedy took 200-300 lives. Few were students, many were rebellious workers, plus thugs with lethal weapons and hapless bystanders. Some calculations have up to half the dead being PLA soldiers trapped in their armored personnel carriers, buses and tanks as the vehicles were torched. Others were killed and brutally mutilated by protesters with various implements. No one died in Tiananmen Square; most deaths occurred on nearby Chang’an Avenue, many up to a kilometer or more away from the square.

More than once, government negotiators almost reached a truce with students in the square, only to be sabotaged by radical youth leaders seemingly bent on bloodshed. And the demands of the protesters focused on corruption, not democracy.

All these facts were known to the US and other governments shortly after the crackdown. Few if any were reported by Western mainstream media, even today.

- Thomas Hon Wing Palin. (2017). Tiananmen: the Empire’s Big Lie

(Emphasis mine)

And it was, indeed, bloodshed that the student leaders wanted. In this interview, you can hear one of the student leaders, Chai Ling, ghoulishly explaining how she tried to bait the Chinese government into actually committing a massacre. (She herself made sure to stay out of the square.): Excerpts of interviews with Tiananmen Square protest leaders

This Twitter thread contains many pictures and videos showing protestors killing soldiers, commandeering military vehicles, torching military transports, etc.

Following the crackdown, through Operation Yellowbird, many of the student leaders escaped to the United States with the help of the CIA, where they almost all gained privileged positions.

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广州还有什么推荐的景点呀?几年前去的时候感觉没有太多,只去了那个很老的清真寺和一个传统居民房(都不记得名字了,不好意思),然后吃了好多,哈哈哈哈。

Be aware, entry to that island requires a Chinese phone number for the booking. Foreign numbers won’t work. Foreigners can purchase Chinese SIM cards and get a number though, look for shops at major airports, China Telecom for example should have short term packages for tourists. Try to book attractions a day or two in advance through WeChat.

I used Halou and registered there with Wechat, didn’t try e-bikes though