hello, so i try to access deals at a company that is not available in my country, my first and only thought was to simply just use a vpn. however whenever i activate a VPN my access to their offers completely dissappears because they know im using a VPN.
so i were wondering if theres any way to hide that im using a VPN for this company?
Websites use various IP detection methods to create their “known VPN” lists. They are not directly able to detect that you are on a VPN, but can see you are using a companies/data centers (VPN providers) IP range or an IP from which “too many” users have connected. Using a VPN that isn’t hosted in a data center or used by thousands of people would probably do it, but it’s hard to be sure without knowing their methods or testing.
They could also be detecting you are not connecting from your device’s time zone or you may still have cookies from previous sessions, but that takes us away from discussing VPNs to discussing privacy…
Edit:format
they know im using a VPN
you sure? it could’ve been some data already stored in cookies, and they compare the data on your cookies (lets say location, preferences) to your current browsing variables.
have you tried incognito yet? or maybe making another account using VPN?
Take a VPN that offers residential IPs. These IPs won’t be detected as VPN IPs.
Also, depending on why you want to use a VPN, you can use DNS instead. It won’t hide your IP, but you can access streaming sites without being detected as using a VPN
Sort of. If you use a vpn behind a regular isp it’s possible in a sense. Meaning if you connect to vpn, then connect chain link to a regular isp connection, it would hide the vpn.
Edit: If you use a vpn, most times they can tell it is a vpn because of many factors. The ip is registered to a known vpn company. Or the domain is a sister to the real vpn domain etc. It goes a lot further into detail than that, but that’s just surface level. many of the protocols used once connected will look familiar to most vpn setups so there’s also things like that to account for.
Option a is to use a socks5 proxy
Option B is to use a VPN that has A feature called obfuscation
Option A/B: use the opera browser. They claim it has a built-in VPN, though in reality it is more of a proxy. But either way, websites tend to have a very difficult time detecting VPN usage when I use opera
Bonus points: subscribe to IP vanish VPN service and you will get access to their socks5 proxies around the world.
Probably if the website is not available in your country, then they do not ship any products there. there is no point to trick the webpage if they do not ship products to your country.
Servers / hosts typically detect you are using a VPN by comparing the IP address of an incoming client’s connection to a list of IP addresses know to be used by VPN providers / operators. If you spin up your own VPN instead of using one from a VPN provider, it becomes much harder for a service to detect you are using a VPN.
You could do this by setting up a VPN endpoint on a Virtual Private Server hosted by a cloud provider in the country you want your traffic to come from. Though, for security reasons, some websites / services sometimes block traffic coming from IP addresses used by cloud providers.
why not give us the link and the product that’s not available when you vpn ?
A web site can know if you are behind a VPN through your IP address.
You can visit https://www.ip2proxy.com for a demo. It can even provides VPN provider name.
i am fairly certain.
i went so far as digging through old boxes to find my old android, factory reset it and make a new google account choosing a different country as adress. downloaded a vpn and then tried but access is still blocked
OP never specified that it was for a physical product. For all we know, it could be something digital. And even if it’s physical, OP could be using a package forwarding service or something to that effect.
if websites can detect ip addresses used by cloud providers, what is the difference with detecting vpn servers?
wait? this is an android apps we’re talking? or a website?
Have you tried a residential vpn
Setup a vpn on someone’s computer and connect to it basically.
OP clearly stated that the store doesn’t sell in his country. this includes both types, while a digital product also requires a billing address. i think you get where i go with it. a billing address shows region (country) and can get blocked if the store blocks countries for any reason
edit: did… did i got my simple post of rich informative useful facts, downvoted? not fans of logic, logical order and common sense in this thread? hahaha
Its the same mechanism used for detection but many websites are more hesitant to flat out block IP addresses of cloud providers. They may be using a list that only includes IP addresses for VPN providers so they may not even notice / care that the traffic is coming from a cloud provider owned IP address.
Additionally, depending on how a website’s hosting / networking is configured, they may not want to block traffic originating from a cloud provider because that might block traffic generated by third party tools / systems they use which are sometimes hosted by cloud providers. They could block all cloud provider IP addresses except for the know addresses of the third party systems / tools they are using but these becomes more difficult because it requires more coordination with the third party.
There are a handful of ways to do this so I’m not suggesting this is the only or best way to setup a personal VPN but this guide from Digital Ocean provides a pretty good explanation of how to set one up. You could really setup your personal VPN with any cloud provider you want as long as they provide hosts in the region / country you want your traffic to look like its originating from. I just picked Digital Ocean because I like to use them for personal projects and they have really handy guide / tutorials. If you do decide to pick a different cloud provider, it might be a good idea to pick a smaller one like Digital Ocean rather than a larger one like AWS. Many of the IP black lists used to block traffic from cloud providers tend to focus on the larger cloud providers since they are generally more popular.
Good point. An app would have more potential ways to detect if you are running a VPN client, but a lot of that detection is also blocked by app sandboxing now. If there is not an obvious app permission, like location or network, it is more likely a simple ISP detection.
Of course “downloading a vpn” doesn’t convey a deep understanding of the underlying technology. So, OP might be missing some important details. Still, it sounds pretty straight forward.
A regional “deals” site may have greater incentive, or regulatory responsibility, to block potentially fraudulent connections and be taking some extra steps, but IP/ISP detection is a good bet.